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<jackp> slight delay?
<N42FD_Jackie> yep.
<N42FD_Jackie> RINU 1 wouldn't start up again.
<N42FD_Jackie> They had to switch it out.
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<N42FD_Jackie> t/o at 1905Z
<carcah> n42fd  Glade to see you are off on time...you have another flight tomorrow  track65    vw
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
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<N42FD_Jackie> carcah, Is the AF flying today?
<carcah> n42fd  yes departed at 18z on track37
<N42FD_Jackie> What is their call sign?
<carcah> n42fd   teal95
<N42FD_Jackie> ok. thank you.
<carcah> n42fd   i have drop 1   
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<carcah> Hi Jackie...Steve F. with you now for the duration
<N42FD_Jackie> ok. Hello.
<carcah> We're good here so far thru drop #5.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok. sending #6 now.
<N42FD_Jackie> We now have Teal95 on radio.
<carcah> n42 Yeah, Teal had a head start out since they had a long trk to cover today
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<carcah> They are slightly cutting the northernmost part of the trk for fuel consumption purposes
<N42FD_Jackie> we have a CPA pool going on here.
<N42FD_Jackie> oh. ok.
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<N42FD_Jackie> Hola Jack!
<jackp> Que tal?
<N42FD_Jackie> not much.
<jackp> Out getting food for Paul.
<N42FD_Jackie> We're w/in comms range of AF
<N42FD_Jackie> We're guessing our CPA with them.
<jackp> Quick ?? fr Ttim...
<jackp> His Opars didn't match pts A-D requested by kingsmill tmrw.
<jackp> Here's what i gave oakland.
<jackp> A: 34 42N, 131 42W, B: 29 24N 124 30W
<jackp> C: 3100N 121 30W D: 36 06N 129 00W
<jackp> Tell him and Joe that Oakland is happy with the track tmrw.
<N42FD_Jackie> He says he has a new OPARS that he'll send you.
<N42FD_Jackie> He already knows they're different.
<jackp> OK, I'll hold off on the Notam until he sends it to me.
<N42FD_Jackie> hehe. I won the pool at 19nm CPA. Actual was 18.5nm
<N42FD_Jackie> Tim, Carl and Barry C. had 21, 22, 23nm.
<carcah> n42 Teal is now up at FL300...shouldn't present any problems for you.
<jackp> Wow, you caould almost see him.
<N42FD_Jackie> except we're in the clouds now.
<N42FD_Jackie> we can't see anything.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok carcah. We were keeping in touch with them. That and ATC was trying to keep us separated as well. It's all good here.
<carcah> n42 Excellent!
<jackp> Hey, CARCAH.
<carcah> jackp Yes, Jack
<jackp> Tomorrow we're flying a hybrid P65 with a different CP.
<jackp> It's approved by NCEP working with HMT project out west.
<carcah> jackp Yes, I am aware that the trk will be modified.  What is the new CP location, and will it still be drop #11?
<jackp> New CP is 31 00N, 121 30W.  We'll have to figure out which drop message it will be.  We'll send every other sounding when dropping along the dropsonde curtains.
<jackp> I just didn't want anyone being overly fixed on the POD.
<jackp> Who's CARCAH tmrw?
<carcah> jackp  From 14-21Z it will be WVW...from 21Z on it will be me again.
<jackp> Who's me...Steve?
<carcah> jackp Yes
<jackp> OK, I think the FDs will be able to wag what Ob # the CP will be when we go over the pattern, let WVW know in the am.
<carcah> jackp  Great
<carcah> jackp  Just read your e-mail msg.  Do you have a modified flt pattern diagram that you can e-mail or fax over?
<jackp> Coming your way shortly.  However, it does not have the drops indicated between Pts A-B-C-D.  There, about 40-mi spacing.
<carcah> jackp  Appreciate it...thx
<N42FD_Jackie> 54kt surface winds.
<N42FD_Jackie> and you can see it in the waves too.
<carcah> Yeah...it's quite a vigorous, tightly-wound storm system
<N42FD_Jackie> just dropped the CP
<N42FD_Jackie> #11
<carcah> n42  Thx for info
<N42FD_Jackie> jackp, how are you getting to the airport tomorrow for your flight out?
<jackp> Thanks for the offer...see you at 5:30 in the lobby.
<N42FD_Jackie> No, Tim was asking. He needs a ride.
<N42FD_Jackie> Was wondering if you had already worked that out.
<jackp> There's room...
<jackp> Seriously, it's arranged.
<N42FD_Jackie> Who's taking you?
<jackp> 5:45 limo, on Jack.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<N42FD_Jackie> We're having difficulties with the sondes.
<N42FD_Jackie> They're either not detecting a launch or not getting GPS winds.
<N42FD_Jackie> We've re-started the avaps station 2 or 3 times already.
<N42FD_Jackie> Not sure what the problem is.
<N42FD_Jackie> Think the winds thing might be wx related though.
<N42FD_Jackie> like there's too much ice or precip in the atmos. to x-mit/receive the winds properly.
<carcah> n42 Jackie...are these current Rev F sondes?
<N42FD_Jackie> let me check.
<N42FD_Jackie> yes they are.
<jackp> wx GETTING WILD OUT THERE?
<jackp> Sorry...wx geting wild out there?
<carcah> WX GONE WILD!
<N42FD_Jackie> We've had some turbulence and a bunch of icing.
<N42FD_Jackie> We're still in the clouds.
<N42FD_Jackie> but I see pale skies above us now.
<carcah> n42 About the sondes...since current versions, problems can't be old batteries or non-UBLOX modules
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<carcah> n42  I noticed the winds in the last 3 tempdrops all died b4 getting to sfc
<carcah> n42  Is this what you meant by the wind outage?
<N42FD_Jackie> yep.
<carcah> n42  Looking at data from those sondes and based on my many yrs of working w/ sonde data at my previous job at HRD, I think the outage might be related to extreme turb.
<N42FD_Jackie> I brought that up to. I thought it might be due to the sondes moving up in an updrift, but I wasn't sure.
<N42FD_Jackie> What about p-static?
<carcah> n42  I don't think that's too likely since the dropouts were occurring at different levels for those three sondes.
<N42FD_Jackie> oh.
<carcah> n42  It is though unusual to see this systematically since the UBLOX module has been included
<N42FD_Jackie> hmmm. a puzzle...
<N42FD_Jackie> Did the AF have any problem sondes by any chance when they went over the system?
<carcah> n42 Actually no.
<N42FD_Jackie> hmmm.
<N42FD_Jackie> so might not be weather?
<carcah> n42 Teal has already dropped 15 of its 16 sondes for today and all have winds down to the sfc
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<N42FD_Jackie> :shrug:
<carcah> n42  I just looked at vis sat imagery at the locations of where those 3 sondes were launched in which the dropouts occurred
<carcah> n42  They were all to the SE of the sfc low ctr and were dropped in intense convection preceding the sfc cold front boundary
<carcah> n42  This could explain the low-level turb.
<N42FD_Jackie> that makes sense.
<carcah> n42  It's also a region that Teal did not sample in close on its trk
<N42FD_Jackie> so it probably was weather. I Will have to check on that when we land.
<N42FD_Jackie> Like I said, it makes sense.
<carcah> n42  Something like that :)
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<N42FD_Jackie> we're out of the weather now and all the drops seem to be working well so far.
<carcah> Good to hear!
<carcah> n42  Got all 20 tempdrop msgs now
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<carcah> n42 We have you down on the POD for an 1830Z t/o tmw.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<carcah> n42  I know Jack mentioned 19Z...but you might want to get off earlier since you are doing the HMT extension
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<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<N42FD_Jackie> Hi jackp!
<N42FD_Jackie> On the ground in 10-15min
<carcah> jackp  I just told Jackie that we have you down on the POD for a 1830Z t/o tmw
<jackp> Things better yet?
<N42FD_Jackie> yep. once we got out of the storm the sondes returned to normal.
<carcah> jackp  Although you mentioned 19Z...you might want to consider going earlier with the HMT extension to the pattern
<carcah> jackp  Got your e-mailed PDF file with the points...thanks
<jackp> 1830 works for me if it works for the A/C.
<N42FD_Jackie> jackp, did you fwd Barry D and myself the pdf's?
<jackp> I will, but there's still a slight difference between Tim's chart and the Opars he ran.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok. I wasn't sure if he sent the corrected ones to you yet.
<N42FD_Jackie> I thought he was working on it while Joe was nav'n.
<N42FD_Jackie> and then was going to send it to you.
<jackp> He only sent me the Opars text.  You now have both emails.
<N42FD_Jackie> we've landed.
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<N42FD_Jackie> See ya later carcah. You need me to give you a call?
<carcah> OK...talk to you tmw.  And yes, please call us.
<N42FD_Jackie> ok.
<N42FD_Jackie> will do.
<carcah> Bye
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